>> what you heard out of china, a government official in china said last month, he was quoted until saying, if we continue bi bailing these companies out in china, it's giving a patient poison to quench their thirst. you had a bailout of sun tech, a bailout of another chinese company and you've had multiple bailouts since then. you have massive oversupply in this market. you need companies to go out of business. what china is doing, they are coming in and bachling them out. thus this capacity that needs to be reduced is continuing to grow. so, we think capacity in china is going to row. you have much more supply than the demand. we continue to see price pressure. >> gordon, one of your competitors, i think tend of november, has a $50 price target on the stock. mentioned their cash flow. i'm not asking you to talk about their call but can you talk about their cash flow? do they have a healthy situation? >> that's a good point. where the projects they have, they will have the cash. but once the projects are over, if you look at first solar's earnings over the past four quarters, quarters whe